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Monday, 3 October 2011

Paedophile Killed & Disembowelled in prison. 03-Oct-2011

Paedophile Killed & Disembowelled in prison. 03-Oct-2011

Clearly, though regretably, there will be those who approve of the gratuitous murder of a paedophile in the most obscene manner.

Interestingly there are those like Robert Green, David Icke, Ian McFerran, George McKendrick, Belinda McKenzie, Brian Gerrish, Matt Quinn, Sandra Barr and their ilk, individuals who as 'snake oil salesmen' know no bounds to their ambition for notoriety and their association with the gutter of life, individuals who condone and support those who set out to cause a breech of the peace and possibly a murder as heinous as that of Mitchell Harrison which Robert Green could all too easily have incited by distributing, in Aberdeen in the February, the leaflets naming those he personally accused of serial child abuse and sexual abuse of Hollie Greig, when together with Stuart Usher at the AGM of Stuart Usher's obsessive attack on selected lawyers in Edinburgh, some months earlier.

That Robert Green lacked a single iota of valid admissible evidence to support his criminal behaviour is a matter of public record - this has not however dettered a criminal underclass supporting his efforts and thereby almost granting license to the most gross of behaviour by paedophiles as it has as a result of their actions become a shelter for paedophiles as genuine investigators stand back from such criminality.

You will note of the many cases brought to light by honest, decent, law abiding people and responsible journalists cases touched by the Hollie Greig effect and the criminality of Robert Green and the like go unreported.

Two inmates charged with murder after 'disembowelled' paedophile is killed in jail attack

  • Nathan Mann, 23, and Michael Parr, 32, charged with murdering Mitchell Harrison, 23
  • Soham killer Ian Huntley had his throat slashed at same prison last year
By Chris Greenwood and Paul Sims
Last updated at 8:19 PM on 3rd October 2011

Mitchell Harrison, 23, was killed with makeshift weapons in his cell at HMP Frankland
Mitchell Harrison, 23, was killed with makeshift weapons in his cell at HMP Frankland
Two prisoners have appeared in court charged with the murder of a paedophile inmate who died after being disembowelled in an attack in his cell.Nathan Mann, 23, and Michael Parr, 32, spoke only to confirm their names at the five-minute hearing at Peterlee Magistrates Court.They are accused of killing Mitchell Harrison, 23, at high-security Frankland Prison, in County Durham - where last year Soham killer Ian Huntley was slashed in the throat by a fellow inmate.Serial sex attacker Harrison was killed with makeshift weapons, thought to be razor blades melted into toothbrush handles.Harrison, who was sentenced in January 2010 to a minimum of four-and-a-half years for raping a 13-year-old girl, was found by warders shortly after 10am on Saturday.A source close to the prison said: ‘To all intents and purposes he had been disembowelled. There was blood everywhere.Charged with murder: A prison van transports Nathan Mann, 23, and Michael Parr, 32, into Peterlee Magistrates Court in County DurhamCharged with murder: A prison van transports Nathan Mann, 23, and Michael Parr, 32, into Peterlee Magistrates Court in County DurhamThe high-security prison in County Durham where the attack took place. It is also where last year Soham killer Ian Huntley was slashed in the throat by a fellow inmateThe high-security prison in County Durham where the attack took place. It is also where last year Soham killer Ian Huntley was slashed in the throat by a fellow inmate 
‘We are still trying to work out the exact chain of events.’Magistrates set Mann and Parr's case to be heard at Newcastle Crown Court, where the pair will next appear on Wednesday.Harrison was jailed indefinitely at Carlisle Crown Court in January last year as the judge said he posed a ‘substantial risk’ to young girls. More...Huntley is serving a life sentence at the prison after he was found guilty of the murders of schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica ChapmanHuntley is serving a life sentence at the prison after he was found guilty of the murders of schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman 
He lured his teenage victim to his flat in Kendal, Cumbria. Once inside he ordered her to strip before raping her twice.It was the third time Harrison, originally from Wolverhampton, had been in trouble for sexually assaulting girls.When he was 13 he was given a formal warning for indecently assaulting a seven-year-old and when he was 15 he was taken to court for threatening to rape a 15-year-old classmate.Detective Chief Inspector Steve Chapman, of Durham Police, said a pathologist found Harrison had died of ‘multiple injuries’.Last night criminology expert Professor David Wilson, of Birmingham City University, said the extremely violent nature of the attack was significant.He said: ‘The question is how can something like this take place in Frankland and why didn’t the staff protect him?’The Ministry of Justice said the incident was a matter for police.



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Sunday, 28 August 2011

'The Beast of Sligo' free to roam the streets


'The Beast of Sligo' free to roam the streets

Why is evil paedophile 'The Beast of Sligo' free to roam the streets despite being jailed for 238 years?

Last updated at 4:13 PM on 28th August 2011

One of Britain's most notorious paedophiles - dubbed the Beast of Sligo- is back on the streets and free to mingle with children and families.

Irishman Joseph McColgan, 69  was spotted among families at a car boot sale in Plymouth, Devon

Evil McColgan was jailed for a record 238 years for repeatedly raping and beating his own children.
The Beast of Sligo: Joseph McColgan is free to mingle with unsuspecting families
The Beast of Sligo: Joseph McColgan is free to mingle with unsuspecting families

He served just nine years before he was released. But in June 2010 when he was locked up again for 30 months for possessing child pornography.

He has now been released early on licence before serving even half of his latest sentence.
McColgan is staying at the Lawson House bail hostel in Plymouth - directly opposite one of the city's main colleges.

But he was tight lipped about his future and whether he would be staying in Devon - where he lived for some time after being released from Dublin's Arbour Hill jail.

He said: 'I cannot talk about it. I am on parole.
'I don't know where I will live. I cannot talk to you.'
Among other offences, McColgan attempted to force his then nine-year-old son to have sex with his seven-year-old daughter.

He also abused all four of his children with cattle prods and burning them.
But the evil paedophile was seen happily chatting to youngsters and adults at the car boot sale.

He spoke with one young man as he tried to buy some spanners for his old bike and looked at stalls selling children's toys.

Shoppers looking for a bargain were unaware of McColgan's notoriety as he potted around on his own before cycling back to the bail hostel.
evil: The paedophile is currently living in a bail hostel in Plymouth
evil: The paedophile is currently living in a bail hostel in Plymouth
Before his latest jail term handed out at Exeter Crown Court in June 2010, McColgan had been living in a small block of flats in the seaside town of Exmouth, east Devon.
His home was yards away from a primary school and his immediate neighbours were unaware of his vile past - along with parents of young children who played in the street nearby.
They were shocked when they discovered who he was and his horrific offending.
When Judge Graham Cottle jailed him at Exeter, he told McColgan: 'You are quite clearly a very dangerous man.

'You are a danger to children and upon your release I very much hope that you are supervised to the highest possible level by the authorities.

'If that is not put in place then children will continue to be at serious risk from you and your activities.'

Detective Constable Steve Harris, of Devon and Cornwall police, said McColgan was an arrogant man who could not accept his offending.

Yesterday McColgan was true to form branding those who made claims against him that he was grooming or watching children as 'liars'.

A National Offender Management Service spokesperson told the Mail Online today:'Sex offenders who are released from prison on licence will be supervised by the Probation Service and police in the community, such offenders are subject to strict licence conditions and can be recalled to custody if they breach their licence conditions.'

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Monday, 22 August 2011

Psychiatrists seek to destigmatize adult-child sex

Psychiatrists seek to destigmatize adult-child sex

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Psychiatrists seek to destigmatize adult-child sex



Conference concludes better to 'focus on the needs' of pedophile than worry about protecting children

Posted: August 22, 2011


9:39 pm Eastern






By Bob Unruh


© 2011 WND






While a highly controversial campaign featuring doctors and psychiatrists seeks to normalize sexual activity between adults and children of almost any age, the principal expert investigator for a U.S. Justice Department study on child sex abuse warns that the pedophilia advocates are using the same strategy that was successfully employed to make homosexuality a classroom subject for small children in the nation's public schools.






Dr. Judith Reisman recently attended a symposium held by the "minor-attracted people" advocacy group B4U-ACT to disseminate "accurate information" on the position that pedophilia is just one more alternative sexual orientation.






"If a foreign country came in and did this to our nation, the nation would be outraged," Reisman told WND today about the B4U-Act event, also attended by J. Matt Barber, vice president of Liberty Counsel Action.






The speakers promoted the idea that the American Psychiatric Association should remove pedophilia from the list of mental defects in its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.






Reisman explained the same strategy was used by homosexual activists in the 1970s when same-sex attractions were removed from the APA's list of disorders. Eventually, the legalization of "gay marriage," the mandatory homosexuality lessons in public schools and the brand-new policy of allowing open homosexuality in the U.S. military resulted.






The recent event wasn't a meeting of minor unknowns:






"Dr. John Sadler (University of Texas) argued that diagnostic criteria for mental disorders should not be based on concepts of vice since such concepts are subject to shifting social attitudes and doing so diverts mental-health professions from their role as healers," the B4U-ACT organization said in a report about its symposium in Baltimore.





Another celebrity was Fred Berlin of Johns Hopkins who argued in favor of "acceptance of and compassion for people who are attracted to minors," the report continued.







The report pointedly referred to "minor-attracted people" in reference to those heretofore called pedophiles and explained that the concerns can be resolved with "accurate information." Richard Kramer, who was representing B4U-ACT at the event, explained how listing pedophilia as a disorder actually stigmatizes the "victims" of the lifestyle choice.






According to Barber, the conference explained how the Diagnostic Manual should "focus on the needs" of the pedophile and should have "a minimal focus on social control" rather than obsession over the "need to protect children."






Barber, an ardent advocate for Judeo-Christian values and the traditional family, told WND the symposium was "the North American Man-Boy Love Association all dolled up and dressed in the credible language of the elitist Ph.Ds."






NAMBLA openly advocates for the legalization of sex between adults and children.






"This is a bunch of morally relative, highly educated people in the mental health community who are trying to achieve the ultimate in tolerance," Barber said. "These are the people who are the disciples of Alfred Kinsey."






It was in the 1940s and 1950s that sex "researcher" Kinsey published his writings, ridiculing marriage, fidelity and chastity and preaching widespread sexual experimentation. But according to Reisman's research, in "Sexual Sabotage," Kinsey's "research" was compiled from information frequently obtained from jailed sex offenders and then portrayed as coming from middle-class America.






Barber said the symposium themes became clear quickly:






Pedophiles are unfairly "demonized" in society.






The idea of "wrong" simply should not be applied to "minor-attracted persons."






"Children are not inherently unable to consent" to sex with an adult.






"An adult's desire to have sex with children is 'normative.'"






And the Diagnostic Manual "ignores that pedophiles 'have feelings of love and romance for children' the same way adult heterosexuals have for each other."






Barber noted that self-described "gay activist" and speaker Jacob Breslow said it is proper for children to be "the object of our attraction." Breslow said pedophiles shouldn't need to get consent from a child to have sex any more than they would get consent from a shoe to wear it, according to Barber.






Berlin previously reported that 67 percent of pedophiles and child molesters relapse after being treated for the disorder. But the few who didn't only were tracked for a period of only two years, and any recidivism after that was unreported. And Reisman noted that even his success "stories" are anonymous and "wholly unverified."






Also on hand was Renee Sorrentino of Harvard Medical School, who discussed the legal, ethical and medical consequences of reclassifying pedophiles, and Andrew Hinderliter of the University of Illinois said the boundary between the helping professions and the criminal justice system can be blurred.






Breslow, of the London School of Economics, said the assumptions about minors and sexuality that support current policy may not even be accurate.






Reisman said the U.S. is following quickly on the heels of the United Kingdom, where in 2009 a court case determined a convicted pedophile's rights were violated when police told his employer about a 20-year-old conviction for molesting a toddler.






Further, a campaign last year was launched in the UK to allow convicted pedophiles to adopt children, since depriving them of that privilege could "breach their human rights."






"There is no reason why all sex offenders should not be considered as potentially suitable to adopt or foster children, or work with them," said an advocate.






But in the cases of young boys assaulted by homosexual men the cost is counted in lives, said Reisman, not only in terms of sexual molestation, but also the spread of AIDS.






Reisman, who was the key investigator for the U.S. Department of Justice, Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention study of child sex abuse in crimes suborned by "soft" pornography, warned that the more the behavior is accepted, the more boys will die.






And yet, according to the report from B4U-ACT, pedophiles should be involved in revising the APA standards of adult-child sex.






WND Managing Editor David Kupelian, shortly after publication of "The Marketing of Evil" in 2005, predicted publicly that the next "liberation movement" to assault America would be "the mainstreaming of adult-child sex."






Today, Kupelian noted, "The same godless logic that leads to normalization of homosexual marriage will lead also to the de-stigmatization and decriminalization of pedophilia. Remember, consensuality has replaced morality in today's legal system, so a young person 'consent' to have sex will ultimately trump the old-fashioned desire to protect the innocent. Also, since adult-child sex is a 'cultural preference' in certain non-Western countries, child-molestation lobbyists are now making the argument that criminalizing adult-child sex amounts to condemning another culture. So that's where multiculturalism has brought us."






In a related commentary on WND today, Reisman said, "The APA path to pedophile norms follows the success of the homosexual anarchy campaign. Arguably, the pedophile media lobby directed the passionate boy-boy kisses on the TV series 'Glee,' to enable fellow 'minor-attracted persons' to increasingly be seen as a boy's sex 'friend.'






"B4U-ACT claims to 'help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma, and fear.' While the group claimed they want to teach pedophiles 'how to live life fully and stay within the law,' no one suggested how to stop their child lust or molestation," she wrote.














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Tuesday, 16 August 2011

8 sentenced for abducting, murdering children in China

8 sentenced for abducting, murdering children in China

8 sentenced for abducting, murdering children in China
as govt tries to combat trafficking

By Associated Press, Tuesday, August 16, 3:41 AM


BEIJING — The Chinese government is tightening adoption rules to combat child trafficking, state media reported Tuesday, a day after eight people convicted of abducting or murdering children received sentences including the death penalty.


Only orphanages will be able to offer abandoned infants and children for adoption, and adults who adopt without official registration will not be recognized as legal guardians, the China Daily reported.


China has a thriving domestic black market in children, mostly involving buyers who want more children or those who want them as slave labor.


Forcing people to go through official adoption channels will reduce the demand for abducted children, Ji Gang, the director of the domestic adoption department of the China Center for Children’s Welfare and Adoption, was quoted as saying by the China Daily. The rules being drawn up are due to be introduced by the end of the year.


Authorities in northwestern China announced earlier in the year they would crack down on the trafficking of Xinjiang children, some of whom are bought or kidnapped by gangs who force them into pickpocketing and other nonviolent crime in China’s eastern cities.


Xinhua News Agency said the children targeted are mostly aged between 10 and 18 and from four cities in Xinjiang, a region with majority Han Chinese and minority ethnic Uighurs.


Many of them are forced into stealing by gangs after being conned to leave home for large- and medium-sized eastern cities with fake job offers, Xinhua said.


On Monday, eight people were sentenced in five cases, including a father who sold his 12-year-old daughter twice to pickpocket gangs and two child traffickers who beat a boy into a coma and then threw him into a river.


In one case, a ring headed by Umair Tohti coaxed young children in Xinjiang into working as migrant laborers in Huizhou City, in southern Guangdong province, and beat and abused them, Xinhua reported, citing the sentence handed down by the Urumqi Municipal Intermediate People’s Court.


On Nov. 9, 2009, Tohti and two others, Tudi Daman and Memet Ahmat, beat a young boy who had attempted to flee into a coma and threw him into a river, where he drowned, Xinhua said.


Tohti was sentenced to death, and Daman and Ahmat were both sentenced to suspended death with a two-year reprieve, according to the verdict. Such sentences usually are commuted to life in prison if the prisoner shows good behavior.


In another case, Arken Wusiman sold his 12-year-old daughter in April 2009 to criminals who trained her as a pickpocket. After the girl was rescued and sent back home, Wusiman sold her again to another pickpocketing gang in January this year. He also sent two other abducted children to work as pickpockets, Xinhua said, citing the Markit county People’s Court.


He was sentenced to nine years in prison and fined 5,000 yuan ($780).


In the three other cases, four people were convicted of child trafficking and sentenced to jail terms ranging from two and a half years to 11 years.


Xinhua said authorities in Xinjiang have sent police who speak Mandarin and Uighur to other provinces to assist in the crackdown on child trafficking.


Xinhua said that since April police had rescued more than 500 abducted Xinjiang children, cracked 90 criminal rings and detained 464 suspects.


The region’s Communist Party chief, Zhang Chunxian, said in April that rescued the children will be returned home and placed in government-run shelters that provide schooling and a safe environment, according to Xinhua.


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Sunday, 31 July 2011

31-Jul-2011 - Hollie GREIG Gets Guarded Coverage in Sunday Express Scotland

31-Jul-2011 - Hollie GREIG Gets Guarded Coverage in Sunday Express Scotland

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it is interesting to note that the claims and allegations surrounding the Hollie Greig 'stories' are treated as just that in the Scottish version of The Sunday Express and also that there is no entry of the story on their online version or web site.

Ben Borland the journalist would seem to have done little 'due dilligence' on the subject merely adding many allegedly type comments to cover himself.

I have had a photographic image of the story sent to me and with a bit of effort it is fairly easy to read:
Here is a full transcript which has subsequently been sent to me:
Breaking News: Hollie Greig case exposed in today’s Scottish Sunday Express



By Ben Borland – Deputy Editor (Politics)


The Scottish Sunday Express



The Lord Advocate has been urged to carry out a “thorough review” to find out why no one has been brought to justice in the case of a Down’s Syndrome woman who police say was abused as a child.




Hollie Greig, now 31, alleges she was sexually assaulted for 14 years from the age of 6, before finally telling her mother, Anne, about her ordeal in 2000.




Grampian Police did investigate but, along with the Procurator Fiscal’s office in the North East, concluded there was not enough evidence to bring a prosecution.




However, documents show that a doctor and the investigating officers “were all of the opinion that [Hollie] had been the victim of… sexual abuse in the past.”




Two years ago Hollie was paid £13,500 in criminal injuries compensation after a Grampian detective described her as a “truthful witness” and an “innocent victim”. A further police probe was launched but last year the crown office said there was not enough “credible evidence” to take action.




Now at least two English MPs have written to Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland to raise their concerns at the decision not to bring criminal proceedings.




In one letter, Andrew George, Liberal MP for St. Ives in Cornwall states: “There appears to be a lot of evidence allegations which point in one direction and indicates that this whole case deserves a thorough review”




He adds: “Many of the professionals with whom she came into contact have allegedly failed in their duties or even covered up important facts.”




Conservative MP David Ruffley, MP for Bury St. Edmunds, also wrote to express his concerns about the “appalling case”




The Scottish Sunday Express understands that Prime Minister David Cameron has even been made aware of the allegations but is satisfied that it is purely a Scottish matter.




Hollie and Anne, who now live in Shropshire, have become the focus of an extensive Internet campaign, with a number of blogs and social networking pages set up to discuss the case. Sarah Brown, the former Prime Minister’s wife, is among 3000 ‘friends’ of the ‘Hollie Demands Justice’ Facebook page.




There is furious debate on a number of allegations, including the claim that Hollie was a victim of a paedophile ring. Others believe there has been a sinister “cover up” by the authorities, including the Crown Office, Grampian Police and the Scottish Government.




Many outlandish complaints were dismissed by former police watchdog for Scotland, Jim Martin, who looked into the case in 2008.




However Mr. Martin also published a letter from a Detective Inspector in Aberdeen, which was sent to the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority in September 2003.




It states: The position, as far as I can determine it, is that there seems a sufficiency of evidence to accept, on the balance of probability, that [Hollie] was sexually abused.”




Criminal injuries compensation requires a lower level of proof than the courts.




Robert Green, the Greig family’s lay legal advisor, said the tragic case is a “real can of worms” and demanded a public enquiry.




A Crown Office spokesman said: “The Lord advocate has received a letter from Andrew George MP and has issued a response.”




Yesterday, Mr. George released the contents of Mr. Mulholland’s reply. In it, he states: “Very careful consideration was given to the material by Crown Council who concluded that there was insufficient admissible, credible and reliable evidence in respect of these allegations.”


You will find there is nothing new here that has not been covered long ago at CLICK HERE

Copies of the letters and reports commented on in Dan Borland's article are readily available and although they can, at a stretch, be made to indicate the claims made collectively there is clearly no credible medical evidence to uphold any of the allegations and without doubt having spoken on several occasions to Hollie at some length and for many hours with her Mother Anne Greig there is without doubt absolutely no chance of a prosecution, based upon a complete dirth of credible, sustainable evidence - merely a series of febrile constructs based on setting out with a decision and then fitting in the pieces that get you to the decision.

Exactly the wrong way to investigate anything!

These 'stories' have been looked at in detail by at least 4 front line journalists (4 different papers) who have looked in detail and have been unable to find evidence that would be admissioble to sustain a prosecution let alone stand a chance of a conviction. It is easily as valid to claim this claimed abuse never happened as it is to build a case to make allegations.

As for the death of Roy Greig there is absolutely not one shred of evidence to indicate any other cause than by his own hand and both motive, state of mind and circumstances that make suicide as irrefutable as one ever reasonably could.

To follow up on all the evidence for both sides do read it ALL and then draw your own conclusions at CLICK HERE I have been a bit lax in keeping the new fabrications and apparent fantasies updated as the 'Stories' have been so clearly debunked and not one shred of evidence of any compelling nature has been presented for at least 18 months - though much has been made of contrived situations such as Robert Green's arrest and his bail conditions.

Strangely he seems to find that being arrested for setting out to break the law and deliberately defame people without valid evidence is in some way unjust! That having shown beyond doubt he is untrustworthy and most clearly both a fantasist and a liar it seems to have come as a surprise to him that he was placed under bail restrictions and ever since that February arrest he has centered the case he has built around himself.

Dragging in unrelated happenings and treating his extrapolations as fact has in the long run undermined the entire justice system for his personal agrandisement sadly.

However as I said - read all the submissions, the letters, the reports, the police enquiries and medical opinions and then draw your own conclusions. It does not take a great deal of wit to realise there is no valid case, no evidence of note, the police enquiries have made the matter clear and there was so little valid evidence and so much obvious fact that the police could not even justify interviewing all who were besmeared with the allegations.

I freely admit that I myself was beguiled by the 'story' as it was presented to me initially but the more seriously one investigated the facts the more convincing was the collapse of the 'Story' to which much has been added since that is even less plausible.

Do read the hard data - dismiss anyone who shelters their lies behind false identities and be sure to note the official documents and then draw your own conclusions.

The facts demolish the 'stories' surrounding Hollie Greig, her mother Anne Greig, Roy Greig and Robert Green - most others involved promoting the 'stories' are fake personnas and malcontents seeking to debase our justice system in Britain in some twisted form of revenge for their own failings, it seems.


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Saturday, 30 July 2011

30-Jul-2011 - SUNDAY TELEGRAPH - BOOKER - SS Snatch Child AGAIN

30-Jul-2011 - SUNDAY TELEGRAPH - BOOKER - SS Snatch Child AGAIN

Christopher Booker
'Child protection' wreaks havoc on a loving family once again


How a mother who fled to Ireland to save her baby was caught on her return.


Mother and child are often torn apart by our system of child protection - Child protection system tears two more happy families apart


Mother and child are often torn apart by our system of child protection Photo: ALAMY


Christopher Booker


By Christopher Booker


30 Jul 2011


The best-known of dozens of English mothers who have fled abroad to avoid their babies being seized by social workers is Vicky Haigh, a former racehorse trainer. After her flight to Ireland three months ago, her baby is flourishing and Irish social workers seem entirely happy that she is an excellent mother. Less happy, however, is the outcome of another case I reported last year. This involved a 17-year-old girl, five months pregnant, who fled to Ireland with her parents, after receiving a letter from a social worker she had never met to say her baby would be seized the moment it was born.



After the birth, all seemed to go well, despite relentless efforts by the English social workers to persuade their Irish counterparts to return the baby to England. They blackened the family unmercifully, pointing out that the grandfather once, many years ago, served a brief prison sentence after a pub fight, while the young mother had, in her early teens, twice been given an Asbo. After a series of interviews with the family, the Irish social workers were satisfied that the baby was in good hands and that there were no grounds for further intervention.




But eventually the family’s savings ran out. Buoyed up by a glowing appraisal from the Irish social workers, they decided to return to England.




All went well until the young mother registered her baby with a GP, who reported to social workers that she was back in this country. The social workers were soon on the doorstep, threatening the girl that, unless she moved out immediately, leaving her child with its grandmother, they would take her baby.




The grandmother applied for guardianship of her beloved grandchild, but on the eve of the final hearing, the social workers arrived at 8.30 in the morning, supposedly to check that “the house was carpeted”. One barged into a room upstairs, where the grandfather, semi-naked, was talking to his 21-year-old son. He told the woman in no uncertain terms to leave, and banged the door behind her. The grandmother was on the landing, holding the baby.


That evening the social workers returned, with four policemen, to remove the baby. They claimed that when the door had been slammed, the child “might have been injured”. They applied for an order to put her into foster care. As so often in such cases, the solicitors recommended by the council to represent the family refused to object, saying nothing.




Three times recently, in the weekly “contacts” with the baby which the mother and grandmother are allowed in the social services office, they have been horrified to see their formerly healthy, cheerful child covered in bruises (legs, thighs, knees, shins, forehead and arms) of which they have pictures. The social workers refuse to explain how such injuries could have arisen.




What the social workers also don’t know is that the desperate young mother, after first losing her child, again became pregnant. Convinced that her new baby would also be seized, she applied for a pill to terminate the pregnancy. Two days later, on the very day her first child was taken into foster care, her second was stillborn. Since then, this formerly happy, loving mother has been plunged into an almost catatonic depression. The only reason she has ever been given as to why she should be robbed of her child was those youthful indiscretions several years back when she mixed with an unruly crowd of other children and was twice punished for it. There is no evidence she has ever harmed anyone, any more than there has been against her father since his own moment of madness years ago.




In Ireland, the social workers expressed every confidence that this baby would be well looked after. In a country where children are only seized where there is evidence that they have been done actual harm, they are astonished at the behaviour of their English colleagues. In no other country in Europe are children snatched from loving parents on such flimsy grounds.




Most shocking of all is the way these inhuman actions are then supported by a court system which often seems rigged against the parents (and the children), to the point where they are forbidden to speak at all except through lawyers who appear as complicit in the system as the social workers themselves. When is this horrible national scandal going to get the wider attention it deserves?

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